[fpc-pascal] Fwd: What to do to get new users

[Martin Frb]

On 19/10/2024 15:17, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2024 at 8:06:44 PM, Martin Frb via fpc-pascal 
> <fpc-pascal at lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>> NOTE: the below is NOT about ARC. It is about the implication that 
>> ARC == Safety (in the environment that we have)
>
> Not following "in the environment that we have”. I’m just saying 
> manual memory management is hard and bug prone which leads to 
> crashing. New programmers are not usually keen on taking on this 
> burden when they have easier solutions which let the compiler automate 
> the hard parts.

Well, I replied to "memory safety" from
On 19/10/2024 14:20, Hairy Pixels via fpc-pascal wrote:
> So right now if you wanted a low level compiled language to learn and 
> you want some memory safety you’re still going for C++.
>


The problem with "new user want..." is that we don't have that date. But 
also, more important, even if some of our assumptions are right, we 
don't know how many of those will stay "programmers" at all.

It is easy to try some coding, when you have a language that (seems to) 
do everything for you. And you get some quick nice looking, but little 
functionality apps. But if you want to continue from there, you need to 
dive deeper. On that basis, you will reach a point were you can't go 
further.

If this is about getting more users, then it doesn't help attracting 
people who will stay only a few month (and would do the same on any 
other environment).

I don't disagree, that there are bits and pieces that could help. But 
not every "new user wants" will really increase the amount of users.

And then, many of those that will be more long term dedicated could 
equally (if not better) be helped by creating tutorials (video and 
text), and other helpful info. So lets go there first. Because there are 
a lot more people who have enough skills to do that, and who could put 
in the manpower, and save the core team from needing to spent time on it.
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