[fpc-pascal] Fwd: What to do to get new users

Hairy Pixels genericptr at gmail.com
Wed Oct 16 05:00:57 CEST 2024


FPC is not keeping up with trends in the industry which new programmings
want despite all the older programmers who are settled in their ways. Even
if there is a market for Lazarus type apps people in 2024 don’t want to use
a massive legacy IDE and prefer better tools like VSCode.

If you want to use FPC these days what does a new user do? If they follow
tutorials on YouTube they expect to have some VSCode package installed
easily and start working that way. FPC of course has no official support
for this and it’s hard to get my language server and it’s buggy due to
CodeTools (a user created project with no official backing AFAIK).

As for the language I think for GUI apps programmers don’t need or want a
manual memory managed language like Pascal and would prefer something like
C#. In general the ease of programming is not there in Pascal compared to
other languages and the community is extremely resistant to change.

I don’t think it’s hard to see Pascal are simply going to get old and die
at this point. I even had an old time programmer contact me and say how
much more productive he is with Swift when writing macOS apps now so quit
using FPC. There’s lots of reason for this so FPC would need to be actively
learning and making changes to keep pace.

Too many details to go into but there’s myriad problems that would need to
be addressed.

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From: Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal <fpc-pascal at lists.freepascal.org>
Date: Oct 16, 2024 at 6:07:58 AM
Subject: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users
To: FPC mailing list <fpc-pascal at lists.freepascal.org>
Cc: Rainer Stratmann <rainerstratmann at t-online.de>


At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being very
interesting. An important question came up.

Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal?
Why do we find it so difficult?
How can we get new, younger users to come to us?
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