<html><body><div dir="ltr">FPC is not keeping up with trends in the industry which new programmings want despite all the older programmers who are settled in their ways. Even if there is a market for Lazarus type apps people in 2024 don’t want to use a massive legacy IDE and prefer better tools like VSCode.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If you want to use FPC these days what does a new user do? If they follow tutorials on YouTube they expect to have some VSCode package installed easily and start working that way. FPC of course has no official support for this and it’s hard to get my language server and it’s buggy due to CodeTools (a user created project with no official backing AFAIK).</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As for the language I think for GUI apps programmers don’t need or want a manual memory managed language like Pascal and would prefer something like C#. In general the ease of programming is not there in Pascal compared to other languages and the community is extremely resistant to change.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I don’t think it’s hard to see Pascal are simply going to get old and die at this point. I even had an old time programmer contact me and say how much more productive he is with Swift when writing macOS apps now so quit using FPC. There’s lots of reason for this so FPC would need to be actively learning and making changes to keep pace.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Too many details to go into but there’s myriad problems that would need to be addressed. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal <<a href="mailto:fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org">fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org</a>><br>Date: Oct 16, 2024 at 6:07:58 AM<br>Subject: [fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users<br>To: FPC mailing list <<a href="mailto:fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org">fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org</a>><br>Cc: Rainer Stratmann <<a href="mailto:rainerstratmann@t-online.de">rainerstratmann@t-online.de</a>></div>
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At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being very<br>interesting. An important question came up.<br><br>Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal?<br>Why do we find it so difficult?<br>How can we get new, younger users to come to us?<br>
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