[fpc-pascal] Feature announcement: Management Operators

[Hans-Peter Suter]

2017-02-28 21:50 GMT+01:00 Graeme Geldenhuys <mailinglists at geldenhuys.co.uk>
:

>  Records - well, I use them like they were defined
> in Delphi 7 and earlier. I really don't see the need for Records with
> Methods (ie: TP Objects) and such.
>

Go with modern times! It's the 21st century now ;-)

(For inspiration have e.g. a look at Julia [1] and how they develop incl.
syntax changes. - Many discussions/decisions are being done using github
issues, here e.g. a quite fundamental keyword change [2, 3]. As you see in
this issue, it is often not easy to find *the* good solution, but it's
great, how opinions have a place to flow in and can be
considered/integrated by the core or other talented devs. - There
are branches: people can help but are also told to wait if the timing is
not good [4]. - There is a manual, stdlib, devdoc [5] which gets you
started quickly and one can easily contribute small things like typos. - A
one-stop discourse based forum [6] which is a joy to use and much easier
than e.g. the multitude of fpc-maillist, lazarus-forum,
newpascal-/mse-<don't-know-atm>-lists. - There's a one-stop binary download
location [7] and/or install master from source, just a ~ 'git clone, make
install' away (llvm is not as fast as fpc though;). - In general uniform
syntax (even with `end` like in pascal:) which doesn't make you guess which
style/convention to choose. - Organisations which integrate people
interested in a specific subject. e.g. [8]. - Package management is
currently a bit 'suboptimal' but a new one is being developed, here the
propositions [9] where interested people can give input in the design
phase, and later while implementing. --- Of course one cannot and should
not compare !!!   Julia doesn't have a 25+ year long legacy with many
(partly a bit obscure) platforms to conserve and maintain. (It 'stole' the
compiler, à la MSElang;-)  It has developers which work since ~7 years
~professionally and there is quite some funding and many many contributors.
But as a maybe longterm inspiration, why not? Maybe some parts are worth
stealing? And, with tool-support, maybe possible to steal?)

(Ähem, I digressed a bit from the Delphi 7 record topic... I am sorry (more
so, considering I forked from you))

(I agree with what you wrote about 'polluting pascal code'. But what can
one do? For me, atm, it is super-important that fpc is very compatible with
delphi, e.g. generics (and that they work well). Thus, very grateful to
people who contribute such things).

[1]: http://julialang.org, [2]:
https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/19157, [3]:
https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/20418, [4]:
https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/20885, [5]:
https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/tree/master/doc/src, [6]:
http://discourse.julialang.org/ (discourse has mailling list integration
nowadays...), [7]: http://julialang.org/downloads/, [8]:
https://github.com/JuliaGPU, [9]:
https://github.com/JuliaLang/Juleps/blob/master/Pkg3.md
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