[fpc-pascal] GUI confusion

[Patrick]

Thanks again to Reinier and Sven

I just bought Getting Started with Lazarus IDE.

I actually tried to get started with FPC back In January. I felt that 
the language was too tied to Lazarus and that I didn't want to use an 
IDE so I gave up.

I will report back when I am a little further along this time. It is 
possible that the language is not being presented exactly as is intended 
or that there is too much room for people to misinterpret how the 
programming environment works.

-Patrick




On 09/29/2013 12:50 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
> On 29.09.2013 15:24, Patrick wrote:
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> I really like the pascal code I have looked at and I am very excited
>> about FPC. I hope this email won't upset anyone, it is a bit negative.
>>
>> I don't really like IDEs. I used gvim and I suppose it could almost be
>> called an IDE as well but I mean I would rather use the shellr then
>> clicking on a build button.
>
> IDEs are less about "build buttons", but about the additional features 
> they provide:
> - integrated debugging
> - error location highlighting
> - code completion
> - code refactoring tools
>
>>
>> I am trying to learn what Lazarus is all about but I am still clueless.
>>
>> There are screen shots of it being used to develop GTK and QT
>> applications but I have also read that GTK 2 is new and buggy and then
>> there is this line:
>
> It seems that this wasn't updated for quite some time...GTK2 is no 
> problem today and is the standard GUI interface for Lazarus on Linux
>
>>
>> "The FPC Qt4 Binding is not meant to create Qt applications in FPC. But
>> it should allow the Lazarus LCL developers to create a Qt Widget set for
>> Lazarus"
>
> I would say scratch that sentence. The first part can be more or less 
> considered nonsense...
>
>>
>> Can I build GTK 2 (or 3) and QT applications in this?
>
> GTK 3 is not yet supported, but GTK 2 and QT are.
>
>> Could anyone point
>> me to resources on how to build GUI applications without Lazarus?
>
> You could take a look at the packages/gtk2/examples directory of a FPC 
> source distribution.
>
> Regards,
> Sven
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