[fpc-devel] Graphical RAD IDE in FPC

Alexander aralni at mail.ru
Mon Sep 17 13:25:07 CEST 2018

Hi Martin,

1. On my computer with free drivers **working all soft** exclude MSE.
2. Non free dirivers is not drivers. Not needed.
3. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69543 developers dont known Pascal and MSE :)
4. May be problem MSE on this drivers from **network** and **time delay** issues ?
On nonfree drivers delays minimized and MSE have time for display img ?
Incorrect architecture for xorg ?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 08:46:08 +0200
Martin Schreiber <mse00000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday 17 September 2018 05:51:17 Alexander via fpc-devel wrote:
> > I try use of MSEide,gui beforehand Lasarus, but excellent result not get.
> >
> > Lasarus use non native for FPC widgets, MSE non stable work.
> >  
> Can you be more specific? Reproducible MSEide+MSEgui bugs are normally fixed 
> in hours or one to two days.
> > Console FPC excellent work, but without graphics.
> >
> > Need more attention for RAD graphical environments from side FPC
> > developers.
> >
> > Author MSE say that bad some **drivers**, but it need to more accurate
> > test.
> >
> > I made http://soft.self-made-free.ru/ 'Birthdays reminder' on minimal
> > set of possibles of MSE and it worn on this driver, but IDE on this driver
> > work incorrect.
> >
> > May be say author about driver is wrong ?
> >  
> Do you mean the "EXA pixmap acceleration" problem with Radeon and other 
> opensource Linux graphic drivers? I was not able to find a bug or a 
> workaround in MSEgui. The EXA acceleration system is not maintained it seems:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69543
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84253
> Please use the proprietary graphic driver for your graphic chip, it has been 
> reported that they work well with MSEgui. Debugging Linux kernel modules and 
> graphic drivers is out of my possibilities.
> There are more "unsolvable" issues with drawing primitives, ex.
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99705
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106628
> or with window managers. The Linux Mint team stole the show:
> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=251027
> where the Cinnamon devels marked reports for bugs which already have been 
> fixed in Gnome3 as spam.
> Take a potion of popcorn and follow the links...
> It looks to me that Linux desktop environment developers only check if Firefox 
> works OK. If yes, all further reports are ignored or the reporters are 
> treated as idiots. BTW, the Lazarus GTK widgetset probably also suffers from 
> minimized -> normal windowstate issue in Cinnamon.
> I don't have the time or nerves anymore to fight such battles, MSEide+MSEgui 
> users must become active themselves.
> Please don't answer to this mail, use the MSEide+MSEgui mailinglist instead:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/lists/mseide-msegui-talk
> Archive:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net/
> Thanks, Martin
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