[fpc-other] [fpc-pascal] The end of Gmane

[Lukasz Sokol]

On 29/07/16 09:48, Sven Barth wrote:
> Am 29.07.2016 10:02 schrieb "Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund at gmail.com
> <mailto:bo.berglund at gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:38:16 +0530, Vasudev Ram 
>> <vasudevram at gmail.com <mailto:vasudevram at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier here already, or if it
>>> is considered off-topic (and if so, will not do it again). But I
>>> think it is relevant and of interest to people reading this list
>>> via Gmane:
>>> 
>>> The End of Gmane? (ingebrigtsen.no <http://ingebrigtsen.no>)
>>> 
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12180547
>> 
>> OH NO!!! I have used the GMane SMTP->NNTP service since at least 10
>> years. It is my main channel into development communities using
>> mail lists and is an invaluable resource.
>> 
>> I cannot even begin to understand how I would be able to solve the 
>> programming problems I encounter without this resource available.
>> 
>> Mail lists is no alternative because there is no structure and I
>> would be flooded with email hiding the normal mail use. NNTP is
>> king in these regards.
> 
> I only use the mailing lists and I don't see your problems at all. 
> I've set up my google mail account in such a way that all mails from
> a specific list get the list's name as label attached and that they
> don't go through the normal mail entry. In Thunderbird these labels
> appear as IMAP folders. So no clutter here. Additionally I use
> threaded view and as long as no one('s client) messes up the list-ID
> that also works without problems. How do you think Gmane manages to
> keep track of the structure? It also uses information contained in
> the mails...
> 
> Regards, Sven
> 

I started using Gmane long ago, because back then neither Google or Yahoo,
IIRC, neither of them had the email rules feature (like, filter by sender address
and move to a folder by name of the mailing list. )
Some free and non-free email providers still might not have that feature, even in this day and age...

Also email providers can have quite tough quota rules, for message size and/or count.

Thunderbird, well yes, it does download same data from NNTP server as you would via IMAP.
(and keeps it on your disk)
But you're in control here too - it only downloads whole article IFF you wish to read it (click its header) or
otherwise request it to be downloaded while syncing the newsgroup.
(IMAP synchronization of folders is not on demand: you either sync whole messages (can not just only download headers),
 or have the 'keep the messages for this account on this computer' checkbox ticked, so you keep nothing locally)

And Thunderbird can search the nntp archive on the server too;
something that is quite much more efficient than searching in mailing list archives.

Also it enabled you to be able to read the mailing list, without going through subscription process too;
(I've no problem to subscribe if I want to post somewhere but for just reading, gmane nntp was infinitely more convenient
than e.g. the mailman web interface before HyperKitty :J )

I wish you also could have seen the thread.gmane.org web interface, and the way it searched....
however they've offlined it already.

Gmane will be sorely missed if the nntp gateway ever happens to go away...

-L.