[fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

Stefan-Iulian Alecu overanalytcl at gmail.com
Wed Oct 16 23:13:39 CEST 2024


> There is fpdoc, and the FPC docs are quite ok. The problem is contributors.
In my experience (and in that of the people I brought along, as well as 
already existing devs around me), no, they aren't OK. They're passable 
at times, yes, but they aren't what I would call "good". I have been 
slowly going through the FP docs and improving this as I go on my 
private fork, once I get more time and go through everything I'll send a 
PR. This is one way people who might otherwise be scared of compiler 
code can contribute. Actually, there should probably be a call to action 
regarding contributors and tell people how to help either team (FP or 
Laz). I am sure there are people on the forums who would be more than 
glad to help, but are intimidated by the thought of dealing with 
compiler code, not knowing they can contribute with bug reports or docs.
> Or because we spread ourselves too thin. Having dreams of an ivory tower
> that somehow restores equilibrium ( new developers > old developers) is
> easy. Making the economics work is much harder.
>
> Attempting to whipold and tired Lazarus developers into submission to
> work on vscode plugins IMHO it doesn't make sense. In short, I think the
> new IDEs developers must come from the new developers ranks, those who
> actually believe in it.

I mentioned that, in the previous quotation you used. We can't expect 
people that are already working on the compiler and Lazarus to also work 
on VSCode extensions and whatnot, that's absurd for plenty of reasons. 
Nothing good can come out of overworking the current team, so this is a 
call to the community (that should be made on the forums too, I am sick 
of repeating the same message over on the "Unofficial" Free Pascal 
Discord server) to help.

We all have to realize that nobody will implement these things for us, 
and complaining is easy when you're just a bystander unwilling to 
contribute. I have discussed these things with the Discord server and 
have started a GitHub org for this purpose (strictly speaking focused on 
Object Pascal as a whole, but it's a cover-up to work on things related 
to Free Pascal for now). But this shouldn't be a one man project, it 
should involve /everyone/, so the CtA in the first paragraph is even 
more important.

-- 
Stefan-Iulian Alecu
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