[fpc-pascal] What to do to get new users

[Rainer Stratmann]

Am Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2024, 15:54:20 CEST schrieb Martin Frb via fpc-
pascal:
> Define "Compiler".
> 
> You use one and the same fpc.exe.
> 
> But you need a different ppc____.exe. All those ppc live in the same
> folder. And they are all called by the same fpc.exe, depending on the
> options given to that fpc.exe.
> 
> Of course, for that they must be installed as cross compilers. So they
> also share the fpc.cfg. But the all have their own ppu and o files.

That means fpc.exe calls another (more specific) compiler?
 
> Yeah, editor toolbar => you get that name, if you click the "configure"
> option. The toolbar can be on top or bottom.

However, this has to be done from scratch every time you install Lazarus 
instead of having it in the basic installation.
 
> Generally a matter of personal preference. I use a key combo, For me the
> toolbar is lost screen space.

Then may be a simple turn on/off toolbar button (I hope it is not a lost screen 
space for you :-) ) would make sense.

> But, I don't say my preference has to be the defining one. Since it can
> be disabled, IMHO it may be there to start with.
> As for which buttons should be on there by default, I have only a basic
> opinion (since I don't use it).

I think the buttons on my little mentioned screenshot are useful for all 
(beginners and experts). And next to it a shortcut icon to the edit of the 
toolbar. Edit of the toolbar is already possible with a right button click. 
Better would be an explicit button so that this is more obvious.
 
> But for people using toolbars, there is (both can be configured)
> - the "IDE coolbar" (toolbar in the main IDE window, where the menu is)
> - "Editor toolbar"
> 
> Since you can have many editor windows open, and each of them shows you
> the same "editor toolbar", IMHO that toolbar should have (as default)
> only buttons relating to the current editor (or the editor window / the
> tabs in the editor window).
> https://pasteboard.co/8CdEFiy4cZiy.png has 3 editor windows => 3 times
> the toolbar (not much on it in my case, but that is not the point)
> 
> Functions such as "compile the whole project" don't relate to a single
> Editor. Showing them multiply times (for each editor window) is imho not
> a proper default.
> 
> But of course fine for anyone who likes it.
> 
> > https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Screenshots
> > Look at all this screenshots. This userfriendly icons are configured
> > nowhere. I did not see them by now.
> 
> Well, I am not against having them visible as default. Or having a
> different set of them.
> Though I don't call that decision on my own.
> 
> - Find out on the Lazarus list (or bug tracker), what would be accepted
> - Within that, provide a patch. Or try to find someone who will.
> 
> That is how change happens.
> 
> 
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