[fpc-pascal] Working on a new way to educate people about pascal

Anthony Walter sysrpl at gmail.com
Thu Dec 29 13:31:57 CET 2022


@youngman

"I'm a database guy with maybe 30 years experience, I'm new to SQL and oh
my god is it an over-complicated monster ..."

Wait, what? Something doesn't make sense with what you said. You have 30
years of experience writing database programming code AND you are just now
beginning to learn about SQL?

Also, it helps a whole lot when writing SQL if you format your statements:

select
    c.*,
    cc.country_name
from
    customers c
    join country_codes cc on cc.country_code = c.country_code;

Formatting code really helps legibility, especially when it comes to SQL.
That ought to be one of the first things you learn.

@richters

Again, you are someone replying with another confusing response. You say
you have little to no experience with databases, then assert:

"and only a very small part of people who use Databases use SQL"

Assuming people in that sentence, you are referring to people who use
write programs or scripts which make use of databases, if you know very
little about the subject of databases on that subject, how can you justify
this assertion?

Moreover, I am unsure why I might heed your advice with regard to effective
writing. Looking back at the messages, your grammar, formatting, and
sentence structure belie someone with little formal education on the
subject.

Quote:

"Then maybe a simple form.    but threads and sockets... ok.. well I know
what threads and sockets are because I happened to use them... but to a
newbie... YIKES what are those?? and SQL??? What the heck is that anyway?
I'm not talking about a newbie.. I mean.. myself... with over 40 years of
programming experience, mostly with Pascal,  What the heck is it and why
would I need to monitor it?"

Your first sentence has no verb. Your profuse usage of strings of
punctuation is both non-standard and inconsistent. It's difficult to tell
whether you meant to have a pause, where a comma would be appropriate, or
whether an idea has ended and a single period should be used.

Grammar is important to writing effectively for a number of reasons. First
and foremost, grammar is the set of rules that govern the way words are
used in a language. It helps to ensure that people can communicate
effectively and understand each other. Without a common set of grammatical
rules, it would be much harder for people to convey their thoughts and
ideas clearly and for others to understand them. I would hope a programmer
with 40 years of experience would recognize this. Good grammar is essential
for written communication, whether it's a business letter, a school essay,
or an email to a friend. Poor grammar can make writing difficult to
understand and can convey a lack of attention to detail or professionalism.

Finally, grammar is important for language learning. Learning grammar helps
language learners understand how the language works and how to use it
correctly. It can also help them understand the structure of sentences and
how to build them, which is important for speaking and writing in the
language.

I suggest you either brush up on these subjects or refrain from scolding
people on subjects with which you have no practical experience.
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