[fpc-pascal] TurboVision is reborn as FOSS (again)

[Sven Barth]

Am 22.12.2020 um 13:02 schrieb Liam Proven via fpc-pascal:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 22:11, Travis Siegel via fpc-pascal
> <fpc-pascal at lists.freepascal.org> wrote:
>> I don't know what non native english speakers are taught, nor can I address the folks across the pond, but here in the Us at least, has denotes currently exists, while had indicates past tense, I.E. no longer exists.  Combining the two is where it gets dicy, and is generally avoided for syntactical reasons.
> FWIW... I'm (among other things) a qualified teacher of English as a
> second language. "Has had" and "had had" are 100% genuine correct
> English tenses, called the present perfect and past perfect
> respectively.
>
> Simple present: FPC _has_ a console-mode IDE -- now, it possesses one.
> Simple past: FPC _had_ a console-mode IDE -- it used to, but this
> state ended in the past; it no longer does.
> Present perfect: FPC _has had_ a console-mode IDE -- it has one, and
> the time it started to have one is a significant time ago.
> Past perfect: FPC _had had_  a console-mode IDE -- it used to have one
> a long time ago, but it stopped having it a long time ago.
>
> I will not itemise all the other alternatives. There is an informal
> competition as to how many tenses it is possible to create in English,
> and the record is some 120 different ones, and 144 if you include
> passive-voice constructions. There are about a dozen in common use.

That is definitely a shocking amount. O.o
> FPC has had a console-mode IDE means that there is one now and that
> there has been one for a considerable time. I presume this is what
> Nikolay meant. I did not know and I apologize for my ignorance of
> this.

Thank you for confirming that Nikolay (and I) had the right gist 
regarding the time. ;)

And no need to apologize. Most users will probably use FPC together with 
Lazarus and thus don't come into contact with the textmode IDE, but 
nervetheless it /is/ there and can be used, though as this thread showed 
it can (and probably should) be improve. :)

Regards,
Sven