[fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0 deb packages?

[Tomas Hajny]

On Tue, September 6, 2016 10:36, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2016, Jon Foster wrote:


Hello everybody,

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Tomas
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> Hi,
>
>> After I banged on it for many hours applying several crude patches it
>> finally makes packages again. But all of this leads me to believe that
>> Debian packages for FPC are no longer maintained / supported? If so
>> what's the story? Maybe my crude hacks could be put to use or I could
>> help out some way?
>
> Well, I guess the main issue is, Debian splits the FPC "packages" into
> separate packages. :) Because it not only installs the package, but all of
> its dependencies (for example C static link libs), therefore a global FPC
> "packages" package with all its dependencies would be *HUGE*. But maybe
> for 3.0 that decision should have been modified, and Debian should have
> bundled a 'set of packages' as a .deb package, instead of each package as
> a separate .deb alone... I mean the various FCL or the various RTL
> packages are certainly just one "package" from the user PoV...
>
> And yes, I'm not sure if the .deb packaging is still maintained in FPC's
> own build system. Maybe the people doing the actual packaging for Debian
> could help you there?
>
>  > My current need is the StrUtils unit, which I must say I'm shocked to
>> find is not part of the core RTL but is in a package?!?! I don't get
>> that but that's your decision.
>
> Again, that's because FPC doesn't think about "packages" the way Debian
> and Linux distributions in general think. Remember, we deploy the same
> structure on all of our supported platforms. We even provide Linux binary
> builds, where "packages" is just one archive, with a specific directory
> structure and that's it.
>
> So we moved out large chunks from the RTL (including strutils) to separate
> packages, because it reduces compiler build times and therefore speeds up
> development. Also, it's makes easier the maintenance of some RTL features,
> which are in fact separate from the rest of the RTL really. I guess the
> Debian packaging situation was simply not considered while making that
> decision, given most FPC developers themselves don't use distribution
> provided packages.
>
> Anyway, packages not finding a given unit in another package could be
> probably fixed by adding additional dependencies to that other package.
>
> That said, if anyone feels like helping out with the current packaging
> situation on whatever platform, he's certainly very welcomed to do so. :)
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Charlie