[fpc-pascal] OT a bit - Planet Object Pascal

[ik]

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Florian Klämpfl <florian at freepascal.org> wrote:
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> Am 17.02.2013 15:36, schrieb ik:
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> >
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 <tel:2013> at 1:58 PM, Florian Klämpfl
> > Why is it that FPC/K now exists for 20 years as an open source project,
> > and you
> > can't earn money for developing it,
>
> Actually, I'am not interested in earning money with it.
>
> >  while Linus that have an OS that
> > exists for 21
> > years can ?
> >
> > This type of things are important more then you think.
>
> For what? For the fun? FPC is probably by far the most successful non
> company supported oss compiler so I'am sure I know what is important.


Yes to solve everything but keep it for yourself :P

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>
> >
> > But not only this, take a look at the freepascal.org
> > <http://freepascal.org> web site: animated gif (from the 90's),
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> Ever looked at gcc.gnu.org, kernel.org, llvm.org etc.?


Nice, Pascal is at the same level of usage and exposure as gcc, Linux
kernel and llvm,
nothing more to do, 0xPascal maybe, just to show that 201x can have
something new ?

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>
> > the whole way of thinking there is not designer oriented - It does not
> > invite new people
> > to the project,
> > does not provide a proper place to be etc...
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> Why should I care? They might use the tools they like, I use the tools I
> like.
>
> >
> > It's not easy to find documentation for things, some are at the wiki,
>
> A compiler is not a toy, and I know that serious programmers find the
> needed docs.


Sure that compile is a toy, it can't do much, just parse something and
move it to be something else :P

And documentation should be at one place, including new features,
workarounds etc... for old versions.
Look at:

http://ruby-doc.org/
http://www.python.org/doc/
http://perldoc.perl.org/
http://golang.org/doc/
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/
http://docs.embarcadero.com/products/rad_studio/
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/JavaScript
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/
https://developers.google.com/

Should I continue, or do you get my point ?

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>
> > some at the /doc-html/ path
> > and many does not exists.
> >
> > So you are working on all this cool features and is the fastest compiler
> > in the world, and you can
> > do everything you wanted with pascal and many things you don't (and it's
> > not a c++ like
> > technology garbage can). But no new blood see it, use it or can be
> > attracted to it, so what's
> > the point ?
>
> FPC is still growing so what is your point?

If a tree fall in the forest and no one hear about it, did it made a sound ?

My point is that features are good, but when on one knows about it, then
what's the point of it all ?

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