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[Rodrigo Palhano]

Nice post,

>> - the framework is huge. This is more important than it seems. Less
>> components to buy, more people using a standarised set of
>> components. It has its attraction.
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:24:51 -0300, Marco van de Voort  
>> <marcov at stack.nl> wrote:

Tottaly agree, this has been microsoft's legacy to computing: standards.

>> On Thursday 16 March 2006 04:17, Bisma Jayadi wrote:
>>
>> > IMO, .Net is just a bussiness buzz from M$ to attract their customers
>> > and prevent them from switching to Un*x systems. Speaking
>> > technically, I saw nothing new in the .Net technology. It's just a
>> > combination of Java (on the system architecture) and Delphi
>> > technology (on the system language), with extra resource requirements
>> > as the consequences. :p
>>
>> Frankly, all that stuff is still early 80s technology at best. Back then
>> they just hadn't the computing power to actually do it.
>>
>> Information technology hasn't changed too much since then. They just
>> invented a lot of new TLAs[0]. The only question is who has the better
>> sales people hired.
>
> While I'm not a .NET lover  (I wrote the FPC section on .NET), but while
> we all know that .NET is at best M$'s copy of Java, that doesn't mean  
> that
> .NET is not a danger:
>
> - it is reasonably well implemented and integrated.
> - the framework is huge. This is more important than it seems. Less
> 	components to buy, more people using a standarised set of
> 	components. It has its attraction.
> - Managers still believe in managed languages, and might for some time to
> come
> - training and sales
> 	- About each and other shrinkwrap development tools vendor is dead or  
> nearly
> 		dead.  The few left are into .NET and M$ can easily keep
> 		them at arms length technically forever
> 	- Microsoft can also keep them at arms length on price forever
> 		 (with VS being coveniently priced
> 	      at 3/4 of the corresponding but poorer Delphi version) forever
>         - Microsoft hardly has to do sales anyway. As OS and Office  
> vendor
> 	  it already has a foot in the door. Strategic developers and
>   	educational  institutions are given licenses often near free
> 	- Also the massive MS training operations automatically generate
> 	  MS developer tools sales.
>
> IMHO it is less .NET itself, but the alarming conversion rates of  
> businesses
> to MS tools (and that is often not a technical choice).
>
> (Oh, and the fact that memory prices have sunk much lately also doesn't
> propel my enthusiasm for .NET)
>
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