[fpc-other] I thought it was going to get better, but no

[Johannes Truschnigg]

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 10:49:06PM +0000, HSN via fpc-other wrote:
> [...]
> Now that they have for the time being given up on the goal of hijacking
> #fpc, it seems to be just the colo account in there saying things to make
> Lazarus ide look like it has problems.
> [...]

I would appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. Thank you very much in
advance.


As a reminder, already in October 2022, two of the IRC network operators of
the libera IRC network you registered the fpc-related channels on judged your
moderation actions after having observed them for a while as (I quote) the
following:

[16:26:37] <Boohumbug> colo: Vote with your feet.  This channel is,
unfortunately, quite toxic and there looks to be no one that cares enough to
address it.
[16:27:10] <Boohumbug> This is now the third user that this particular op has
forced out of the channel in the few days I've been present.
[16:27:53] <Joanna> I completely agree. Nobody should stay in a channel where
they are unhappy.
[16:28:17] <Boohumbug> You are, as always, missing the very obvious point.
[16:28:28] <Joanna> What is that?
[16:28:39] <jess-o-lantern> that you're running the channel quite toxicly
[16:28:41] <Boohumbug> _YOU_ are the common denominator in this.

[16:29:42] <jess-o-lantern> there's nothing staff can or should do about that,
channels are free to run themselves how they want, but my opinion is you're
running this channel with unnecessary and arbitrary use of power

[16:38:45] <Boohumbug> colo: This channel is inarguably in the wrong
namespace.  We don't enforce the rule but it does exist.  You are free to
create ##fpc if you'd like and perhaps others will feel as you do that this
channel is toxic and move elsewhere if they had a suitable place to go.
[16:40:00] <Joanna> Boohumbug I agree
[16:40:16] <Boohumbug> I'm not looking for your agreement.
[16:40:19] <colo> Boohumbug, I do understand that option, but I have no
standing whatsoever in the free pascal community (only started engaging with
it a few weeks ago), and I don't feel like I could be an appropriate steward
of that community (or channel) as a result
[16:40:50] <Boohumbug> ## channels are first-come first-serve.  They don't
need to represent a project, they just need someone to watch over them.
[16:41:32] <Boohumbug> But the suggestion stands.  As jess pointed out there
is nothing we can do to try to address this issue here; the powers that be
have made their stance known and nothing is going to change.

(More context, for anyone who cares: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1273023)

-- 
with best regards:
- Johannes Truschnigg ( johannes at truschnigg.info )
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