[fpc-other] Your thoughts on cloud based server instances?

[Travis Siegel]

Isps don't want folks running servers from their homes, because that's 
considered business use, and they charge roughly 10 times the price of 
residential service for business lines, even they run over the same 
exact lines, and use the same exact equipment as residential lines.  I 
don't understand it myself, since a heavy gamer is going to hit their 
services much harder than many average size business users will, but 
apparently, that's how they break up things.  And, interestingly enough, 
I asked my local provider what a static ip would cost, and they told me 
a static ip would be 400 a month, and that doesn't include the actual 
internet access, that's just for the static ip.

I have no idea how many of their customers pay that price, but 
apparently some do, or they'd not have the price.  In addition, 
apparently, they have some sort of snooper installed now, because it 
used to work for me to hit my external ip, and I could use my router to 
redirect traffic to certain machines/ports on my internal network.  That 
no longer works, so they started blocking incoming connections, but I 
don't know how they do that, since outgoing connections work just fine, 
and I know some services connect back to the outgoing machine to verify 
connections and such, so perhaps they're dynamically watching 
connections, or maybe it's something simpler than that, but regardless, 
running servers with these guys is no longer possible.



On 3/12/2017 9:41 PM, noreply at z505.com wrote:
> On 2017-03-10 20:35, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> Just for reference, a T1 hasn't costed thousands of dollars for more
>> than 20 years.  The last time I had one, it was less than 600 a month,
>> and that was more than 10 years ago.
>
> Indeed, I only did research on them about 15-20 years ago and haven't 
> done any research on them since.
>
> IMO every person should be able to run their own server in their home 
> at low cost. ISP's are simply ripping people off, IMO.
> It does not cost 600 dollars a month to "ship" electricity to 
> someone's house....
> They have almost no costs involved other than installing the wires and 
> boxes and infrastructure. Indeed the infrastructure had up front 
> costs, but there is a reason why telephone companies are multi million 
> dollar for profit companies: Because suckers pay for their services at 
> inflated prices.
>
> Still I'm happy that they give you good download speeds for a good 
> price , just not the upload speeds
>
>>
>> Of course, these days, with fiber, and highspeed dsl, a T1 line is
>> relatively useless considering the cost and transfer speeds.
>>
>
> The speeds still are not any faster than a 10/100 network card which 
> is very old technology.
> I'd like to see internet speeds reach the 1000 speed cards, and for 
> wifi to also improve to that.
> But this is just a dreamer speaking.
>
> Even usb2.0 speed is pretty slow compared to a 1000 card. So why use 
> internet at usb 2.0 speeds or 10/100 card speeds?  But again: just 
> dreaming here...
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