[fpc-devel] Linux kernel behaviour change regarding keyboard

Marco van de Voort marcov at stack.nl
Thu Jul 19 00:07:26 CEST 2007

> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Dani?l Mantione wrote:
> > What is bad about such a solution?
> It's not KIS. If you can't have certain keys without being root, well then
> you'll have to learn to live with it.

IMHO either give up the textmode IDE, or try to support it to the fullest

> This is no longer the MS-DOS age when
> everything was possible. 

"everything" being using the standard keyboard type that is around for 15 years.

> It's a shortcoming of the platform, and for me
> this is the end of the story. The keyboard unit should in no way set up
> such a communication channel; if you absolutely want that, you can set 
> it up for the IDE (I don't use it anyway), but not for the standard keyboard 
> driver unit. Develop a driver that handles this, and use that in the IDE.

(skip this if you hate rants)

Why bother with more advanced keyboard at all then? The platform obviously
is not fond of simple keyboard systems or unit keyboard would not be several
thousand lines. Maybe we should repatch the IDE to a VI mode so we can kill
function keys:-)

> Rather, we should request that they implement a decent keyboard 
> interface which allows you to detect properly the state of all keys on 
> the terminal which you are currently using.

Definitely. And that was also one of the points I wanted to make when I made
the half serious setuid remark.

The problem should be propagated back, specially if it is configurable in
the kernel. Maybe it will at least make some distro packagers of more
desktop distroes aware of the problem.

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