[fpc-devel] type discussion

[L505]

| More code bloat, more typing and they get in the way. They dont give me
| anything useful in return.


Why do you even bother using Pascal, it seems you obviously do not like one bit about
it.

|
|
| > Garbage collection is largely no issue when using the Owner concept in TComponent,
using TObjectList, etc.
|
| True and thats why I suggested ref counting Tobjects only so that no
| manual memory management is required. I tend to make heavy use of TList,
| Tstringlist and TFilestream objects so I cant do everything with
| tcomponents alas.
|
| >
| >>and a  richer framework has made them switch to the dark side. We need
| >>to fight  back!
| >
| >
| > Ok, but richer framework simply needs people adding packages and useful units to
freepascal :-).
| >
| >
| >>>Python is hard to read, especially if multiple blocks are closed at
| >>>once, then it's hard to see what block a line belongs to (because of
| >>>missing 'end' or '}').
| >>
| >>not true because of the indenting (use bigger indents!). Im not saying
| >
| >
| > Bigger indents cause the text to go too wide. More functions also help, I agree.
| >
| >
| >>python is great I just envy *some* of its shorter syntax and it would
| >
| >
| > Ok, some, but not this one ?
|
| Well typing begin..end all over the place isn't a lot of fun :(

Why do you even bother using Pascal, it seems you obviously do not like one bit about
it.

|
| Especially as Im gonna have to indent them as well just to make em
| readable. So yeah it seems they are more pointless syntax bloat.
|

Why do you even bother using Pascal, it seems you obviously do not like one bit about
it.

|
| >>>I also don't like the magic. For example the 'mystrings.create;'
| >>>example you mentioned, it's *totally* not consistent with regular
| >>>syntax: mystrings.create means call "TStringList.Create" on the
| >>>object pointed to by the mystrings variable.
| >>
| >>Well Pascal in the only mainstream langugae that does that - I dont
| >>see  the pont and it aint magic.
| >
| >
| > Sorry, the only language that does what ?
|
| var strlist : TStringlist;
| strlist := Tstringlist.create;
|
| I know strlist is a Tstringlist, the compiler knows it too as I have
| declared it so why do I have to spell it out in the creation process?

Why do you even bother using Pascal, it seems you obviously do not like one bit about
it.