[fpc-devel] type discussion

[Micha Nelissen]

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:52:13 +0100
Jamie McCracken <jamie-junk at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > C# is very much like delphi, not at all like Python. What were their
> > reasons to switch ?
> 
> Because its so close to Delphi and they have switched because they
> found  it more productive. No forward declarations, garbage collection

I don't understand, why are these forward declarations so evil ? 

Garbage collection is largely no issue when using the Owner concept in TComponent, using TObjectList, etc.

> and a  richer framework has made them switch to the dark side. We need
> to fight  back!

Ok, but richer framework simply needs people adding packages and useful units to freepascal :-).

> > Python is hard to read, especially if multiple blocks are closed at
> > once, then it's hard to see what block a line belongs to (because of
> > missing 'end' or '}').
> 
> not true because of the indenting (use bigger indents!). Im not saying

Bigger indents cause the text to go too wide. More functions also help, I agree.

> python is great I just envy *some* of its shorter syntax and it would

Ok, some, but not this one ?

> > I also don't like the magic. For example the 'mystrings.create;'
> > example you mentioned, it's *totally* not consistent with regular
> > syntax: mystrings.create means call "TStringList.Create" on the
> > object pointed to by the mystrings variable.
> 
> Well pascal in the only mainstream langugae that does that - I dont
> see  the pont and it aint magic.

Sorry, the only language that does what ?

Micha