[fpc-devel] Division nodes

J. Gareth Moreton gareth at moreton-family.com
Sun May 21 01:00:49 CEST 2023


Hi Florian,

Can I have a specific code example where this is absolutely necessary, 
and, if applicable, a target where it's known to cause a problem 
otherwise?  I've tried to create the example listed in the e-mail with 
the following:

procedure DoDivMod(N, D: Int64; out Q, R: LongInt); noinline;
begin
   Q := N div D;
   R := N mod D;
end;

I'm testing on x86_64-win64.  In this case, the "expanding to 64-bit" is 
necessary and so "doremoveinttypeconvs" is never called, thus the 
condition is not inserted.  The "idiv" operation is 64-bit and the 
result downsized to 32-bit - this also occurs if I do an explicit 
typecast on the result:

procedure DoDivMod(N, D: Int64; out Q, R: LongInt); noinline;
begin
   Q := LongInt(N div D);
   R := LongInt(N mod D);
end;

However, if I do an explicit typecast on the operands...

procedure DoDivMod(N, D: Int64; out Q, R: LongInt); noinline;
begin
   Q := LongInt(N) div LongInt(D);
   R := LongInt(N) mod LongInt(D);
end;

... then "doremoveinttypeconvs" is called and the condition inserted.  I 
would argue here though that typecasting a value to a LongInt, where an 
output of $80000000 is a real possibility, should raise an exception if 
you try to divide it by -1 since the programmer is asking to downsize 
values that could potentially be out of range.

Kit

On 19/05/2023 21:55, Florian Klämpfl via fpc-devel wrote:
> Am 19.05.23 um 21:14 schrieb J. Gareth Moreton via fpc-devel:
>> So I need to ask... should the check for a divisor of -1 still be 
>> performed? 
>
> Yes. This is the result of "down sizing" a division. In case of
>
> longint(int64 div int64) can be converted only into longint(int64) div 
> longint(int64) if this check is carried out. longint($80000000 div 
> $ffffffff) must silently result in $8000000 in this case.
>
>> The case of doing "min_int div -1", even with unsigned-to-signed 
>> typecasting, seems very contrived and the programmer should expect 
>> problems if "min_int" and "-1" appear as the operands.  Is there a 
>> specific example where this implicit check is absolutely necessary?  
>> As others have pointed out, silently returning "min_int" as the 
>> answer seems more unexpected (granted this is just the behaviour of 
>> an optimisation that converts the nodes equating to "x div -1" to 
>> "-x", and Intel's NEG instruction doesn't return an error if min_int 
>> is its input operand, but I can't be sure if the same applies to 
>> non-Intel processors and their equivalent instructions).
>>
>> Kit
>>
>> On 17/05/2023 09:51, J. Gareth Moreton via fpc-devel wrote:
>>> Logically yes, but using 16-bit as an example, min_int is -32,768, 
>>> and signed 16-bit integers range from -32,768 to 32,767. So -32,768 
>>> ÷ -1 = 32,768, which is out of range.  This is where the problem lies.
>>>
>>> Internally, negation involves inverting all of the bits and then 
>>> adding 1 (essentially how you subtract a number using two's 
>>> complement), so min_int, which is 1000000000000000, becomes 
>>> 0111111111111111 and then, after incrementing, 1000000000000000, 
>>> which is min_int again.
>>>
>>> Kit
>>>
>>> On 16/05/2023 13:13, Jean SUZINEAU via fpc-devel wrote:
>>>> Le 16/05/2023 à 01:47, Stefan Glienke via fpc-devel a écrit :
>>>>> min_int div -1
>>>>
>>>> "min_int div -1"  should give  "- min_int" ?
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