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<p>I don't really know why this NewPascal stuff is on this mailing
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/25/2018 11:59 AM, Maciej Izak
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-25 16:10 GMT+02:00 Tomas
Hajny <span dir="ltr"><<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I assume that the
functionality added to trunk (and as far as I remember<br>
also announced in the list) was finished to the extent
that it works and<br>
may be used (although with some possible limitations),
otherwise there<br>
would be no sense in adding it to trunk at all. As such,
it's as supported<br>
as any other part of FPC (i.e. bug reports and feature
requests may be<br>
created, etc.). If it doesn't work and noone can fix it,
it might be<br>
removed (as with any other unfinished and not working
feature), but I<br>
don't have any information about this. Could we focus the
discussion to<br>
real problems, if necessary, rather then speculations?<br>
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<div>Sorry if any part of my message sounds like
speculation. Is really hard to say anything without
communication with core team (almost no communication -
just ban). I was asking/talking in more private or public
places but almost no one was interested to write any
concrete reply.</div>
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<div>I am always trying to act like professional, sometimes
it is hard :). For sure removing MO from trunk is not good
for me and means more work on my side for NewPascal, but
the main goal of MO was introduction of smart pointers,
nullable types and simplified ARC objects. Also in this
context FastRTTI is very important, more extensive usage
of smart pointers/nullable types/arc objects mean much
faster final code. Every element is related: FastRTTI , MO
and all smart pointers variants. So removing MO from trunk
has sense if FastRTTI is not finished or smart pointers
are not planned in near time.</div>
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<div>If any of the core member is interested to finish this
(FastRTTI, smart pointers, etc) I will be very happy,
finally core has many more talented programmers than me.
If someone other will finish this I will be happy too
(finally the end effect will be good or even better for
whole community).</div>
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<div>Also the good solution may be to remove temporary MO
from trunk, I can finish this in NewPascal (maybe I will
be able to create more end-user friendly form, so
temporary may be good to not break backward-compatibility)
and we can talk how to merge things back.</div>
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<div>I am always opened to any cooperation. For less
frustration for both sides would be good to keeps both
projects alive. I can continue NewPascal with my ideas and
vision but at the same time I see no reason why FPC should
not benefit from my work in less "neuralgic" code parts.
If the core will change opinions about new features from
NewPascal (I can also change any features or re-implement
any of feature if FPC core wish that) any of feature can
be merged back into FPC trunk. IMO this path is beneficial
for all. In the worst scenario I will "burn out" (which is
not planned by me) but in general FPC will be better.</div>
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<div>Best regards,<br>
Maciej Izak</div>
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