<div dir="ltr">2018-04-02 16:36 GMT+07:00 Michael Van Canneyt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@freepascal.org" target="_blank">michael@freepascal.org</a>></span>:<div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""></span>
Please look at the lazarus logo/icon. It has no whiskers.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I opened <a href="http://lazarus.freepascal.org">lazarus.freepascal.org</a> and I found it's using a paw as its logo. Did I miss something? Sorry… I haven't been following Lazarus news for quite a while, so I don't know the current logo.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It looks much more like a cheetah, not like a kitten.<br>
So you can do something about it: remove the whiskers.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But cheetah do have whiskers. Other people complained the old logo weren't really look like a cheetah's face.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As an exercise I have done the job for you. See here:<br><a href="http://www.freepascal.org/~michael/pascal_logo2.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.freepascal.org/~mic<wbr>hael/pascal_logo2.png</a> <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Perhaps I should make the whiskers a bit less visible? Thinner perhaps?</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It's of course better to improve the original, I am not an artist.<br>
(I even would get rid of more elements, but let's start with this)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not a professional artist either, but I love art and I do drawings for a hobby.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If we're talking branding anyway (a subject I loathe), then a logo should represent the company/product group, whatever.<br>So, the FPC logo should exhale maturity, strength, prowess, self-confidence.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Modern logo doesn't necessarily have to represent the WHOLE values of a company/product, because a company/product should be dynamic that could/should change over time. So is the logo. Take a look at most modern logo of big companies today, i.e. Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. For example, I can't see any of Apple's values (both the company and the products) got represented on a bitten gray apple fruit. It looks dull, at least to me. But the Apple brand image is so powerful and what people think about Apple is far from dull. Or… what values can we see from a G shaped with four bright colors of Google's logo? It looks like a letter toy. Or Linux logo, Swift logo, Kotlin logo, etc.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hardly things one associates with a kitten.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think it looks like a kitten, especially the updated one. But of course it looks like a cat, because cheetah is a cat.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">FPC is an open-source project dating back to the days the word "open source" did not exist. So maturity is important.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How do we put "maturity" onto a cheetah's face? Cheetah is known as the fastest animal on land. That's what the most recognizable value of a cheetah logo. And that's what people should think about (Free) Pascal: it's FAST. By making the logo looks more modern, it also brings modernity value. So, the new logo should represent something that's fast and modern. And cheetah is also cute as a mascot. And cuteness is attracting young people. :)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Using marketing/branding talk:<br>
Given that I think your version looks like a kitten, you will understand that for the reasons explained above, I would not want to be "associated" with the logo as you proposed it now.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I understand. But I'm not fully agree with you either. The main reason I'm proposing new logo for Free Pascal –or even Pascal language in general– is I want to bring Pascal to the young people. I want these kids know that Pascal today is as modern, fast, and dynamic as other well-known programming languages. I hate it when I told them I'm writing a software using Pascal and they look at me like I'm a dinosaur. Some of them even asking me, "how do you make a web app using Turbo Pascal?" :D</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, I'm currently designing of another Pascal logo that's more abstract, simpler, friendlier, and more colorful. It's still based on cheetah's face though. I'll present it as second alternative, once I'm done with it. :)</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>–Mr Bee</div></div></div></div>
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