<div dir="auto">I couldn't agree more. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I still program in (what everyone now calls console) pascal. While working on a large project, will even go into virtual machine to use the Borland Pascal 7 IDE, which works a little better than the FPC IDE. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course, having started pascal with Borland's Pascal for CPM almost 40 years ago, one might call me an luddite of a fashion. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have written a few small windows type apps, but still prefer console. More of the programming is for function instead of display.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 3:29 AM Alexander Grotewohl <<a href="mailto:alex@dcclost.com">alex@dcclost.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I can't help but feel like they'd still just download regular fpc
and use it at the console with the help of a minimal syntax
highlighting editor. Don't get me wrong, that's exactly how I like
to use fpc, but I already know lazarus is awesome for all the
bells and whistles.</p>
<p>The problem with the types of classes that use pascal for
teaching is the same as the ones that use BASIC: They just want to
teach you looping and using variables and stuff. The absolute
basics. In these instances it doesn't matter how cool the language
is if you're not an experienced enough programmer to use it.
Perhaps a decent target would be a database course, where Lazarus
has a better chance to shine, and the users actually have a chance
to see what's in the RTL/LCL/etc.<br>
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As an aside, I don't think the pascal community is that small, it's
just spread out. There are a lot of other implementations people
cling to (myself included).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-30 16:19 GMT+07:00 Ingemar
Ragnemalm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ingemar@ragnemalm.se" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ingemar@ragnemalm.se</a>></span>:<br>
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The logo is very good, and well connected to the tradtion
set by the animated gif. The alternative would be to use a
frame of the animation, or similar sideways cheetah, but
scaled up so it can have different resolutions. But the
head is more compact, which speaks in its favor.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
am not sure how bit the *need* is but it doesn't hurt to
have an official still image logo.</blockquote>
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<div>If we want the young generation to know Pascal with a
new paradigm, a modern programming language paradigm, I
think this branding effort is quite important. There are
so many people still think that Pascal today is still the
old 70's Pascal. I even found many universities, at least
in my country, that still teach Pascal using Turbo Pascal.
When I introduced them to new and modern Pascal, the
FPC/Lazarus (or Delphi), they were amazed at how modern
Pascal is!</div>
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