<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-05 15:00 GMT+01:00 Martok <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:listbox@martoks-place.de" target="_blank">listbox@martoks-place.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Why? ...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Default property / field or/and aspects is better solution. The way mentioned by Sven with extending generic's scope means almost no control over used operators (or really hard to predict), IMO bad design >.<. Now we have a lot of problems with type/class/record helpers scope, for extending generic's scope I can guarantee "exponentially" more non-fixable problems + destruction of consistency of language and problems with implementation of default property / field and aspects... Pandora's box is nothing in comparison to extending generic's scope in such way :P. Simple example:</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">specialization for the same generic type can behaves in different way!</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">for example final code for TFoo<

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">TSomeArray</span>> will be different than for TFoo<TSomeArray> declared in other module (!). What if TFoo<T> has some class var + class constructor ? What if inside is used some dictionary (declared as class var and handled in class constructor/destructor) to handle different specializations (where as key of that dictionary is used TypeInfo(T)) and some logic is hidden behind of type which behaves in different way for the same specialization?</span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Totally nuclear destruction and non-fixable problems for language and libraries. I will repeat it again : definitely non-consistent and destructive feature. This can't work in proper way.</span></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> * use Generics.Collections<br>
I'd like to stick with fcl units, and rtl-generics seems pretty outdated<br>
compared to your repo?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'am working on Generics.Collections 2.0 it is not ready for trunk yet (anyway <a href="https://github.com/maciej-izak/generics.collections">https://github.com/maciej-izak/generics.collections</a> is full functional for 3.0.4 and trunk - just few tests are missing and part of interface for T*AVLTree*<> types). </div><div>

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Generics.Collections 2.0</span> is much improved, 

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">with many fixes</span>, full of tests and ready/optimized for Smart Pointers / Nullable types. I found also many new compiler bugs related to generics types and I want to try to fix part of them before I decide to update rtl-generics.</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best regards,<br>Maciej Izak</div></div></div>
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