[fpc-pascal] OT: Re: http://www.freepascal.org/future.var

[Noah Silva]

I think it depends where you draw the implied parentheses. :)

 I (can and will) not ...
 I (can) and (will not) ...

I also did a double take when I read that, but.... I don't think Japanese
has any similar constructions.

Thank you,
    Noah Silva



2013/6/6 Mark Morgan Lloyd <markMLl.fpc-pascal at telemetry.co.uk>

> Howard Page-Clark wrote:
>
>> On 06/06/2013 08:32, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>> Reinier Olislagers wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6-6-2013 7:52, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reinier Olislagers
>>>>> <reinierolislagers-**Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.**gmane.org<reinierolislagers-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org>>
>>>>> schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5-6-2013 22:02, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'am opposed to an LLVM backend but if Jonas implements one I can and
>>>>>>> will not influence this :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's clear enough, thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I meant .... I can not and will not ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I understood you: German and Dutch are much alike in this
>>>> particular construction where you leave out one not/nicht/niet, I
>>>> think ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> English is the same. Don't worry about it.
>>>
>>>  I'm not a good enough linguist to know if English is "the same", but
>> Florian's original statement in English is ambiguous. It could be taken to
>> mean "I can influence an LLVM implementation, but I will not," or it could
>> be taken to have an implied earlier "not" to mean "I cannot and will not
>> influence..."
>> However it is a very curious construction in English, which immediately
>> makes the reader think "What does he mean exactly?"
>>
>
> It's not curious at all. He explicitly said "can and will not", he did not
> say "can but will not".
>
> Anyway, this is veering OT even for an OT thread, all I was trying to say
> was that his English was entirely adequate- at least to somebody who dates
> back to the time that grammar was taught as distinct from being allowed to
> "develop naturally" :-)
>
>
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