[fpc-other] SpVoice.GetVoices To GPL flame discussion ;-)

[noreply at z505.com]

On 2017-04-12 08:26, Lukasz Sokol wrote:
> On 12/04/17 13:37, noreply at z505.com wrote:
>> On 2017-04-12 07:01, fredvs wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> There is also a free-open-source project : espeak :
>>> http://espeak.sourceforge.net
>>> 
>>> The licence is GNU General Public License so you may use the
>>> executable like you want.
>> 
>> The GPL is a restrictive license, so you may not use it like you
>> want..
>> 
> Don't want to sound like a GPL zealot, b/c I'm not...
> 
> but this (and below) is mostly 'depends' : on how you want the
> software model to work, how do you value feedback, and how do you
> care of people taking advantage of your code in various ways,
> without you knowing it.
> 
> There, that's about as neutral as I dare to name it ;)
> 
> (I also tend to trust GPL/LGPL/MPL released programs more than I'd do
>  with anything 'less restrictive' - from end user perspective)
> 

I find a lot of GPL applications to be low quality, half assed works, as 
no one is paid to work on these programs since GPL sets a price monopoly 
of zero dollars on the product.

But there are some high quality GPL apps out there.

It's just that when people are paid to work on products, you get super 
high quality software such as say, oh I don't know, Adobe graphics 
editing tools such as photoshop, adobe pdf reader (acrobat). Compare 
that to the absolute sh(t tools on unix that are GPL'd such as the old 
ghostscript reader or clunky GIMP.

Now, paid software does end up producing Bloatware and featuritis 
though, whereas BSD tools remain simple without as many knobs and 
featuritis.

But a sh*t tool like midnight commander at the command prompt is just no 
comparison to a paid product like Total Commander which is by far 
superior in all ways to going back to the dark ages and using a text 
mode norton commander gpl program... But then again, you have a GPL'd 
Double Commander which is a very nice tool. See the problem with Double 
Commander is it violates its own license. Double Commander allows you to 
load pretty much any Total Commander plugin, and that itself is a 
violation of the GPL because those plugins are not GPL, (many of them) 
and therefore you are violating the GPL by loading non gpl compatible 
plugin dll's... So if double commander was just a "Do anything the f*ck 
you want with it" license, such as bsd/mit, then there would be no 
violation, hence the superiority of a truly free license like mit/bsd.

All the little double commander users (myself included) are constantly 
violating every single word and line in the GPL by loading non gpl 
compatible total commander plugins, but no one cares, because GPL 
violations happen every single day, thousands of them, and people 
actually use GPL software more like bsd/mit software - just no one 
actually reports these violations nor gives a flying sh*t or a flying 
f*ck..

Yeah, in practice, everyone uses GPL code as if it was bsd/mit licensed.

Another example is THE INTERNET, where all gpl code on the internet is 
hidden from site. Businesses use gpl code to run their website software 
programs and never release any of the gpl code and keep it secret from 
you on their servers, because apparently according to the Great Richard 
Stallman, you can ship your web program to people without releasing the 
source since it is just a pipe of text, but any time you pipe stuff over 
X11 you have to release the sources. It's called hypocrisy...

Or, some call it "GNG is Not GNU"

No offenses intended to you personally, it's just that most people do 
not actually understand the GPL and are using all this GPL'd code as if 
it was bsd/mit licensed, when really it's not.

Double Commander is the perfect example of where GPL cripples the 
application and people do not even realize it, because they just go 
ahead and violate the GPL and don't care. Any time anyone loads a non 
gpl compatible plugin into double commander, which they do daily.. they 
are violating the gpl. If it was bsd/mit licensed, there would be no 
worry, you'd just do whatever the f*ck you want and get on with life :-)

That's what I call freedom.

But as for the actual criminal gang stalkers who write GPL code such as 
the openbsd developers.... Let's just say that people who write good 
code, are not necessarily the best people to actually have personal 
relationships with in real life. I don't know about freebsd developers 
or dragonflybsd developers or mozilla/gpl developers. Basically all 
humans deserve hell roast for being socially inept.